Hey CC
Drug's SUCK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hey CC
Drug's SUCK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Raggz, you can't compare the kids to the abusers. Life deals you what it does. It's not to say that if one of those kids does make it through that they aren't destined to find drugs. The choices a teen makes are not the same as what a child would ever do. Though we are the same person for our entire lives, we are actually many different people. Remember, even serial killers and people such as Dahmer, Hitler and Saddam were all once upon a time lovable little kids.
16 year old Carl was a straight edge maniac. I hated drugs, smoking, alcohol, you name it. 18 year old Carl started to smoke. Not sure why, just did.
20 year old Carl tried pot, didn't like it. That was about the age I found imported beer. Enjoyed it, got HAMMERED on it and a bunch of other stuff, and damn near died. People who saw me walking the next day were in shock.
27 year old Carl quit smoking.
29 year old Carl decided life was too damn short to avoid everything in life. I was watching my Mom die from Cirrosis. She got it from the medications her mom took while pregnant. My mom was withering away and looked a skeleton. She didn't ask for the cirrosis, she just got it. The docs told me she wouldn't survive two weeks, and she probably wouldn't get the transplant.
5 days later she got the liver she needed. This was now almost 6 years ago, and she is still with us. She has a few problems right now, but things are still going as best as they could.
I'm now a part of a study group for Mayo Clinic, as there is a pretty damn good chance any day now I will be finding out I have cirrosis. This type is hereditary (sic).
But ya know what? During the time Mom was getting ill, I knew it could happen to me, but I also found a great enjoyment in fine beers. I started thinking, if I take it in moderation, I should be fine. I love the taste of these beers. Sometimes I enjoy a slight buzz, and every now and then it's nice to get ripped. Yes, it's an escape, and sometimes I need an escape.
The thing is, you get one chance at living. I know what I like in life, I know I want to live. I know there are things in life to be enjoyed. I know this world is here right now. I like to think there is something after this one, but I am not sure. I know I have a bottle of Westmalle Triple in my cellar right now, and I know I will enjoy the flavor VERY much.
It's a sad thing Raggz, seeing a child getting sick and passing. I have two kids, I would probably die if I lost them, literally. There is nothing I love more than my kids. I also coach kids softball and give plenty of time to kids. A ton of these critters in my town know me now, and I hear on a regular basis how they feel about me.
One thing I have learned about kids though. They have compassion and they can find sympathy for everybody. They know unconditional love, something we forget about in time. They have a greater understanding than we do. None of those kids would ever think the way you do towards a drug abuser or a person who drinks.
You can't compare your situation to anybody else. It's arrogant to do so. You don't know what happened on that April night back in 1992 that sent somebody down whatever path.
Certain things that are beautiful about being alive, and they are compassion and finding humanity. Never turn your back on a person in need. Protect yourself, but also do what you can, and always shed a tear.
Sorry to rant, but it bothers me to see anybody missing compassion. Plus, it almost feels like the kids are an excuse to have hang-ups, and the kids themselves don't even have those hang-ups, so you REALLY shouldn't. Lifes too short for hate of any sort, and it is really to short to miss out on maybe enjoying it a bit. Not saying you should do drugs or drink, but you should try and understand exactly why somebody may have tried it once upon a time, and been sent spiralling.
"It's easier to hate than to understand."
-GBH
It's shit you figure out for yourself as you grow up.
I know, as a teen of 17 and the boys (And band) I was with were all doing blow, mushrooms, gas etc (Nothing as extreme as heroin though!). I grew out of it when my first child arrived and never touched any shit again. It was just a phase I went through I guess.
These days... give me a few beers over drugs any day!
I am not into drugs at all. I did certain things when I was younger and that was it. Some of those guys I bothered with at the time are either dead now from drugs or are still using them. Sod that.
I don't even drink these days to the point where I get home and the room is spinning. Fuck that. I know now my limits. I can get drunk as fuck, have a good time and know when enough is enough. I haven't seen the room spin in years lol.
Sure I get drunk... but not to the point where I am praying to the porcelain god. (And in the house, I will just have a few cheap cans... Brewsters eh Daz? LOL).
Hey Marcus I am in almost complete agreement with you. Your point is exceptionally valid. As you say, it is hard to have sympathy for what you view as a self inflicted situation when you sit it next to a kid with lukemia.
From that perspective it is understandable.
However, I just do not think that life is as black and white as that. A kid with lukemia is much more deserving than a smack head are they more deserving than a kid born deaf and blind?
It doesnt always work to try and justify things via relativity.
<font color="#FF0000" size="1">[ September 28, 2005 03:57 AM: Message edited by: IH Rich Rags ]</font>
Hey, why hasn't anybody mentioned what a dangerous drug alcohol is? It sure as hell would be banned as illegal if it was only discovered now. What other drug causes as many car accidents, violence, suicide's, illnesses etc? None! Also cigarettes would be surely banned if they come out now. Cigarette smokers cost millions&billions and so many people die and suffer cos of them. Just a few points I wanted to add.
Oh yeah, and I'm a 'weak chocoholic'. Where's the nearest rehab? And yes, am serious [img]smile.gif[/img]
All the time governments make money out of taxing beer & cigs, they won't prohibit it.
Much like America's stance on the environment, too much money is made from gasoline (oops, off at a tangent! [img]redface.gif[/img] )
<font size="4" face="Arial">Hey, first post this page. Sheesh...people have forgotten about my massive length posts, and yet still nobody reads my shit. This is quite heartbreaking. [img]wink.gif[/img]Quote:
Originally posted by Sherri Sixxx:
Hey, why hasn't anybody mentioned what a dangerous drug alcohol is?
Don't cry Carl. I read it. [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/beer.gif[/img]
I have read everyones posts on this thread with great interest, I don't believe anyone of us condones drug abuse, we are all here because ultimateley we love the music and unfortunateley drugs and booze are part and parcel of it. We have all 'been there done that' and are all still here to tell the tale, lets face it if we hadn't come to our sense's there would be no glitzine cos we'd all be pushing up daisy's, paying for one excess or the other. It sounds like all the parents (me included) are probably, because of previous experiences some of the most concerned, admit it you don't want them doing what you did, hey I smoked abit of weed but realised early on that I would rather have a beer but it could have gone the other way. Life is a wonderful thing, making sure the life you have created are safe and happy is far more satisfying.
<font size="4" face="Arial">Sure you did. Don't try and make me happy with rubber gloves and beer man...I know nobody loves me here...Quote:
Originally posted by Stacey.:
Don't cry Carl. I read it. [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/beer.gif[/img]
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